MINUTES OF THE 31ST MANAGEMENT MEETING
HELD BY ZOOM
SUNDAY 1ST SEPTEMBER 2024
Present: Glen Fiddy (President) (GF); Rev Clive Thrower (CT); Chris Idle (CI); Steve
Harpham (SH); Elizabeth Heaton (EPH); John Thorpe (JT); Mike Lawton (ML) and Jane
Boden (JEB).
1. Minutes of the previous meeting and matters
arising
The minutes of the meeting held on 26th July
2024 were accepted after minor corrections.
Items from 26.07.2024
3a – Handbells – awaiting information
3b. – Private Rings – ongoing but not covered by
Diocesan policy see 7 below.
4b – Revision of the 6 Bell contest to be
discussed at the ADMs.
New cup to replace the Arthur Ashby Cup is
ongoing.
4d – Stanton by Dale – JEB had tried to contact
without success.
4e – CCCBR informed.
7a – Donation for DYR T shirts embroidery had
been made.
7b – Contact with Derby St Lukes to be made.
7c – GF had responded.
7d – Most of the outstanding subscriptions had
been paid.
2. Apologies for absence Apologies were received from Andrew Hall and
Richard Taylor.
3. Approval of the Agenda for October General
Meeting
See below – agenda was accepted, ringing and
tea details to be confirmed. The rule change
was received later but within the 4 week notice
period.
4. Subscription rate for 2025 After discussion it was agreed that the
subscription rate for 2025 would be increased to
£12 for adults and £6 for Juniors and over 80s.
This was voted on and accepted.
5. Grant to the BRF or REF It was suggested that this year’s grant should be
paid to the BRF. This was accepted after
discussion, and it was agreed that if the increase
in subs was agreed any surplus amount for 2025
should be paid into either the BRF or REF.
6. Grants from the REF A general debate followed on the process of
payment and approval as it was not clear at the
moment. A payment of £100 was agreed
for St Peters Derby. To be raised with the BRF
Committee at their next meeting but thought that
grants up to £1,000 need not have the
Management Groups’ approval. There were
grants outstanding for Breadsall and Ockbrook.
7. Safeguarding CT reported that there was nothing to reported.
The Diocese was going to appoint a new
Advisor. Noted that the Diocesan policy did not
cover private rings.
8. AOB The matter of Ellacombe Chimes which are not
rung full circle was raised do we need to
recognise in the Annual Report. Deferred to next
meeting
9. Date of next meeting GF to liaise with JEB over dates and would send
out a ‘doodle’ poll. The meeting would be held in
Derby.
AGENDA FOR THE OCTOBER GENERAL MEETING
PLEASE DISPLAY IN YOUR RINGING CHAMBER AND CIRCULATE AMONG YOUR
RINGERS
The October Meeting and 8 bell inter-District contest is to be held at Alfreton on Saturday 5th
October. Draw at 2.15 pm with contest ringing starting at 2.30 pm. In the afternoon there is
also general ringing at Pentrich 2.30-3.30 pm. and Swanwick 3.30-4.30 pm. If time permits
ringing at Alfreton after the contest until 4.55 pm. Tea at 5 pm and the meeting with results
starting no sooner than 5.30 pm. Evening ringing continues at Alfreton from about 7.15 to
8.15 pm. Numbers for tea by Wednesday 2nd October tea@derbyda.org.uk
1. Result of the 8-bell contest
2. Vote of Thanks
3. Minutes of the Summer General Meeting held at Horsley on Saturday 22nd June 2024
circulated in advance and taken as read.
4. Matters Arising.
5. Apologies for absence – in advance of the meeting to the General Secretary
6. Election of new members
7. Verbal account of the Central Council meeting
8. Appointment of Independent Examiners (2)
9. Two proposed rule changes see end for details proposed by Paul Jopp
10. BRF Treasurer Information
11. BRF Report from the Bell Consultants
12. Presentation of Certificates
13. Report from the Education Committee
14. Safeguarding
15. Report from the DYR
16. Subscription rate for 2025
17. Transfer to the Bell Repair fund
18. Items of information –
5th April 2025– AGM – Peak District
June 2025 – Summer Meeting & 6 Bell Striking Contests at Horsley – Central District
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th October 2025 – October Meeting & 8 Bell Contest – Central District
19. Correspondence
20. AOB – in advance of the meeting to the General Secretary.
Jane Boden
General Secretary
PROPOSED CHANGES TO RULES
Proposal one
Change to Rule 13 of the Six Bell Competition Rules by the addition of the highlighted
sentence
PROPOSED
13. Teams are allocated 240 points from which faults are deducted. A maximum of one
fault per row may be deducted, with fractional deductions at the judge’s discretion.
The points obtained from the marking are multiplied by a bonus factor as below:
Double 1.0; Plain Minor 1.025; Treble Bob 1.05.
Currently there is no bonus factor.
Proposal Two
In Rule 6 of the Association Rules to delete the highlighted sentence
6. Alteration to Rules
Alterations to the rules or objectives may be made at any General Meeting of the
Association. Notice in writing must be given to the General Secretary not later than
one calendar month before the relevant meeting and should clearly indicate the
proposed additions, deletions and changes. Alteration to the striking contest rules
shall be made by the Management Group.
The revised rule would read
6. Alteration to Rules
Alterations to the rules or objectives may be made at any General Meeting of the
Association. Notice in writing must be given to the General Secretary not later than
one calendar month before the relevant meeting and should clearly indicate the
proposed additions, deletions and changes.